Maybe team up with the GxSNMP folx? (www.gxsnmp.org)
sascha =)
"Jonathan A. Zdziarski" wrote:
>
> > $100,000?! Whoa, thats HUGE. Must be some grate software, but I really bet
> > its not something some good OSS muscle couldnt beat!
>
> Netcool is fully integratable with all the leading OSS systems =) it even
> has a gateway for popular apps such as remedy, clarify, oracle, etc.
>
> > Well, I dont mind nocol rightnow, getting more familiar with it these
> > days. Have been looking around at a few things, not sure if we want
> > to switch. With 3 people on call (we cant guarantee our pages get thru
> > so we have to page 3 people), our pages are getting slow when there's
> > 6 pages for one single event (DSL line goes down or something).
>
> NOCOL is great, but not very scalable... i like netcool in the fact that
> you can make it show you as much..or as little information as you want...
> if a trunc goes down, you can make it display only that trunc rather than
> all the customers behind it, etc. It also records the number of times the
> event occured, so if it flops, you can make it take action only if it
> flops more than x times, etc. it's mostly SQL based.
>
> > We're thinking of making some extremely object oriented network pluggable
> > (ooh buzwords) type network monitor Some Day When We Get Some Time. I know
> > this aint gonna happen, so it would be easier to modify something that
> > already exits. For us we have the advantage of Nocol being familiar to us
> > but Im wondering if there's something else outthere that is that much
> > further ahead in what we want to ad to it.
>
> An object-oriented NOCOL sounds like a real neat idea..perhaps it could be
> the next part of NOCOL..using perl packages on the PERL side, and oop on
> the C/C++ side. Making it SQL based would allow us to do some amazing
> things with it. If vikas is interested in coming out with a new version,
> I'd recommend powering it off of MySQL perhaps with an oracle driver
> extension for the more savvy networks.
>
> > Really, I spose one thing that would help majorly is a paging scheduler,
> > as well as a criticality filter. The crit filter would sit before
> > the paging scheduler and just figure out if at 3am this "quake server 2 down!"
> > is really importan enuf to wake people up for, or if its something that
> > can wait for a reminder page some hours later. As well, reminder pages for
> > crit things when it hasnt been fixed STILL, 30 min later after the original
> > critical would be good. For super important stuff, sending out the same
> > page twice would be a good ability as well due to the nature of our paging
> > network that we use, as well as the impenetrability of the subway system. ;)
>
> This sounds like a bunch of problems that would be solved if NOCOL was
> ported to SQL. Rather than using binary files, it'd be very easy to write
> some (pardon the expression) scripts to query for all kinds of data fields
> and generate pages, etc.
>
> > Just wondering what the existing state of all this is now. I know this is
> > a list specifically for nocol, but I dont know if there is a good general
> > forum for system monitoring tools that I should be on (please do tell).
> >
> > Thanks!
>
> this could open up quota a can of worms if the right people listened =)
> could take NOCOL/SNIPS to a new level.
>
> > /kc
> >
> > > On Tue, 12 Oct 1999, Velocet wrote:
> > >
> > > > Amazingly quiet mailing list.
> > > >
> > > > Is nocol dead end? where's SNIPS? Does it exist?
> > > >
> > > > Has anyone got nocol doing hierarchical conditions, so that when a link
> > > > is down you dont also get paged with SMTP, Web, Pop, Imap, Ftp and everything
> > > > else being down too?
> > > >
> > > > Is someone still maintaining nocol?
> > > >
> > > > Or has everyone switched away from nocol? If so, what are you using now?
> > > >
> > > > /kc
> > > > --
> > > > Ken Chase, Director Operations Velocet Communications Inc.
> > > > math@velocet.ca Toronto CANADA
> > > > --
> > > > "Sometimes two [harmless] words, when put together, strike fear in the
> > > > hearts of men -- Microsoft Wallet." - Dave Gilbert
> > > >
> > >
> > > Thank you,
> > >
> > > Jonathan A. Zdziarski
> > > Sr. Systems Administrator
> > > Netrail, inc.
> > > 888.NET.RAIL x240
> > > http://www.netrail.net
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Ken Chase, Director Operations Velocet Communications Inc.
> > math@velocet.ca Toronto CANADA
> > --
> > "Sometimes two [harmless] words, when put together, strike fear in the
> > hearts of men -- Microsoft Wallet." - Dave Gilbert
> >
>
> Thank you,
>
> Jonathan A. Zdziarski
> Sr. Systems Administrator
> Netrail, inc.
> 888.NET.RAIL x240
> http://www.netrail.net
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